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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:56 pm
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Well, I figured it's time to give it a shot. If I don't try now I don't know when I will. I'm pretty confident in all categories except ISDN & access lists. I would have to say I'm about 80% on access lists and 70% on ISDN.

Any last minute things you guys could think of to help me with access lists or isdn, I would appreciate it.
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I failed bad. I got a 772.

Planning & Design : 80
Implementation & Operation: 82
Troubleshooting: 54
Technology: 64

I'm really frustrated now. I can answer all of my Cisco Pack questions and never miss any. I have no idea what I missed.

How many times can you retake the exam incase I fail the next time?
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until you pass but you need to wait a certain amount of time between the exams, check CCO
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dont feel too bad, you werent too far off- you will get there..

try taking other practice exams, the ones a free-tests.com seem much harder than any other ive tried for ccna..
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try taking other practice exams, the ones a free-tests.com seem much harder than any other ive tried for ccna..


I know... I wrote them
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Is there anyway to find out which questions I missed? I reviewed some of my materials, and the ones I thought I got wrong, I got right.
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Unfortunately, no, there isn't any way to tell. You have to simply recall from memory and then check out the answers.

Troubleshooting is going to be the hardest part unless you are working with R&S gear on a daily basis. The only thing I could think of is to work through some labs on your home gear, then break the lab and look at logs, look at changes to the system, etc. The more you see, the better your odds.

It is 5 business days after a first fail before you can retake the exam. I am not sure about the successive fails, however.
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how are you getting on with your re-study plan>
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Honestly, I've stopped studying. I got so upset with failing that I kinda put in on the non-priority list. I feel my weakest areas are STP and ISDN setup (particularly dialer profiles). I can remember some questions from my exams and the "answers" are not found in the book, and feel like I wasted time and money buying books especially the cisco press pack because it is supposed to tell you everything you need to pass. Last week I literally took the CCNA questions on www.free-tests.com like 1000 times to pound those into memory.

I can take pretty much any practice test I can find and score 90% or better. Then I remember getting a 772 on the actual exam, and it makes me wonder why I failed so bad. I am also financially unstable right now, so I don't feel like throwing another $100 out the window if I don't pass.
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Last week I literally took the CCNA questions on www.free-tests.com like 1000 times to pound those into memory.


There's your problem

Unless you have managed to find some sleasebag that's willing to provide you with the actual exam questions, there 9is NO POINT memorizing the answers.

You gotta understand the subject matter, and let the exam questions look after themselves.

if you sit the same practice exam more than two or three times, you'll simply end up memorizing the exact answers to those exact questions, and probably fail the real thing again ...
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im sure everything you need is in the intro/icnd books
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I didn't take the tests so many times to memorize the question/answer combo, but rather help memorizing subnet combos a little faster. I did find a weakness (subnetting with blocks, which you will find a thread a little bit lower in the section), and made sure I knew what I was doing.
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its no good memorising subnets, you really have to learn the binary and how a subnet mask does what it does, and why, etc

get yourself to the point you can work it out in your head
it gets a bit harder when you are working out hosts for a 12 bit mask, but for every 24+ mask and probably around 20bit isnt difficult to work out without paper
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So it's no good to memorize that /20 = 255.255.240.0 ? etc.?

You want me to waste time and write down 1111 1111.1111 1111. 1111 0000. 0000 0000 everytime?

Doesn't make much sense to me.
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memorizing that a 20bit mask is 255.255.240.0 is different to KNOWING that a 20bit mask is 255.255.240.0

you dont have to write it down, but its not difficult. you know that 8 bits make up 255, so you can instantly think well thats 8, 8, and 4 left..

maybe better to memorize how many bits make up 128 192 224 240 etc..

you can of course do it how you want, but i took the time to learn it properly and any subnet question wouldnt give me trouble, if they are really hard i might even need to pick up a pen for a few seconds..
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