hi guys, im new here. just a question..

telecomm12 · New Member Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Canada

i want to do my MCSE. can i do it studying on my own or i HAVE to attend an institution/shcool for this?

if i can study on my own, which book would u guys recommend.

im also planning on doing ccna. any advice for me??

thanks.

raynebc · **Post subject:** **Posted:** Tue May 30, 2006 9:15 pm

It can be self study. That said, you will need adequate materials to study and practice with. In all likelihood, you will need to set up a small Windows network in your house/etc to train for the MCSE, and for CCNA, you need to set up a small network of Cisco routers.
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telecomm12 · New Member Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Canada

thaks for the reply man.

lets say i want to attend an institution for both ccna and mcse, how much could it cost me? does it cost a lot of money to do it?

i asked a person here in toronto and he told me it could cost me up to $8000

i was also told that i should rather do ccna, then ccnp and if possible ccie and not "waste" my time on mcse? thats just ignorant how is "mcse" a waste of time? anyways i got real confused and decided google a little about it and here i am.

btw nice website.

raynebc · **Post subject:** **Posted:** Tue May 30, 2006 10:11 pm

You should probably read up on certification threads here. Apparently, the MCSE program is going to be dumped in the near future in place of a new MS certification. As for institutions, you can go for a 2 year degree to learn a bunch, that's what I'm doing. If you can get CCIE or MCSE or even both, you shouldn't have any problem getting a killer job, so shoot for whatever you want to go for.
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JimHalpert · **Post subject:** **Posted:** Wed May 31, 2006 7:42 am

The MCSE program is getting dumped?!? I'm just now starting to study/test for that. Does anyone know how soon this is supposed to happen? Am I wasting my time on something that is soon to be obsolete?

ricka182 · **Post subject:** **Posted:** Wed May 31, 2006 7:51 am

The MCSE is not being dumped anytime soon. There are still loads of companies using Windows 2000, as well as 2003, so there will be a need for people who hold the cert for quite a while. Even with a new cert program on the horizon, M$ won't completly kill the MCSE.

Also, if you go try to get CCIE or MCSE, or any other advance level cert without experience, you would have wasted your time. Besides, you can't get CCIE without NA and NP, and years of knowledge.

To start anew, read through the forums, and figure out what you want to do. Cisco and M$ are completly different tracks in IT. Pick one, then concentrate on that...and ask questions here when they come up. Someone here will always be able to help....
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wlassalle · **Post subject:** **Posted:** Wed May 31, 2006 11:45 am

Shyt nowadays you need CCNA even if you wanna be a phone system installer.
Im getting it to round out my resume and give me some validation of my cisco interactions.
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war4years · **Post subject:** **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:34 am

ricka182 · **Post subject:** **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:59 pm

kidvelvet · **Post subject:** **Posted:** Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:19 pm

The only way I could see going for the CCIE cold is if you have 10-15 years of experience and haven't had the time to get the other certifications. In that case, it may actually be beneficial to simply go for the CCIE. But that is a rarity. Even then, a good 6-9 months of study is still in order with the proper lab setup.
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