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Post subject: LPI LINUX does not expire Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:17 am
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I was looking at the LINUX certs:
sair, novell's sclp, linux+, rhce, rhca, and lpi....
seems like lpi is working on a really good cert that will be internationally recognized and will not expire, something like a professional accountant or finance person holds, CFA or CPA etc. similar to that, which also requires two exams and doesnt expire. after my MCSE 2000 messaging specialisation I may go for the LPI Linux cert if further research proves that its worthwhile.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:11 pm
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Right now RHCE is probably the most prestigious of the Linux certs but LPI is definitely gaining credibility. It is a very solid entry-to-intermediate level exam.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:24 am
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I agree with Drew. The LPI is gaining some ground, and once level III is complete with the hands-on lab exam, I believe that it will be at the same level, if not surpassing RHCE.
The one thing that gives RHCE so much clout is the backing of HP and IBM for the cert. RH Enterprise 3 is developed to work with Tier 1 servers, something that other distros do only with some real serious tweaking.
I wouldn't even consider SAIR. They had too many issues with companies using their cert in scams that they have developed a bad reputation. Do some google searching for SAIR and you will see what I mean.
Linux+ is a nice entry level cert, but you don't need to have too much administration experience with it to pass. If you have been using Linux for more than a year on a consistent basis, it will be a breeze. The only reason I got it is that my boss wanted me to have it. Hey, if he will pay, I will play. _________________ kidvelvet www.kidvelvet.net
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Post subject: LINUX exam dilemma Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:55 am
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I have very high respect for the CCIE and the RHCE certs but from a cost standpoint they are just beyond me. My previous job which I had for about four years here in Thailand paid US $500 a month. Considering the fact that a plate of fried rice here in Thailand costs US $.75 to US $1 compared to US $5 to higher in USA I'm not complaining except that certification exams, if not paid by employer, are just too expensive. Microsoft has lowered their exam prices to US dollar 50 and there are discount vouchers available at certain periods on top of that.
So CCIE and Redhat though highly wanted by me, (we use Redhat here at my new job, a US outsourced company which pays we pretty well according to local standards) are out. That leaves me with LINUX+ or LPI or NCLP. From these I think LPI would be the best selection for the reasons stated in my previous post. When I took the SAIR exam and failed I felt like vendor neutral certs are a bit too much since each distro uses different paths for different things etc. and it can be very confusing.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:33 pm
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LPI does a pretty good job remaining vendor neutral. They go by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard for most of the path related stuff. The only thing that isn't truly vendor neutral are the package management questions. They let you select either the RPM or Debian format. For 2 exams at $100 each the LPI certification is about the same cost as Linux+ but definitely worth more.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:52 am
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from redhat web site:
The validity period for all RHCEs and RHCTs is now officially pegged to the release of the Enterprise product commercially available at the time certification was earned, and certification shall be current until after one (1) major release of the Enterprise product. All RHCEs earned on Red Hat Linux 7.3 or prior will be considered current until the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS/ES/WS 4. All RHCEs and RHCTs earned on Red Hat Linux 8.0 or 9 will remain current until the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5. Validity and current status of an RHCE certificate will continue to be verified at Certification Central.
Our information suggests that the RHCE is such a strong certification that RHCEs in continuous practice as professionals are likely to be able to keep their skill levels up in pace with Red Hat Linux technology. Some Red Hat partner programs mandate RHCEs maintain certification on the most recent release.
Post subject: LPI cert expiration Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:30 pm
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Hi All,
I just finished passing the 2 LPI level 1 exams--the 2nd is particularly brutal. As far as expiration, when I looked myself up on the LPI website, my cert did list a start date--the date I passed the 2nd test--and what certainly appeared to be an expire date--10 yrs after the start date. I can't swear that the cert does expire--the 2nd date may be a byproduct of their database.
I would think that by ten years, you would take level 2 and 3 exams, and that would extend your cert lifetime.
BTW, I have seen a preview of the level 2 exam, and it's mind boggling. I can't even fathom what the level 3 exam will cover (sample question: use the blank space below to write the kernel code. All of it.)
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:56 pm
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From LPI's website:
Quote:
LPI strongly encourages certificants to recertify minimally within a ten-year period. Ten years from the date the first exam of the level was passed, a certificant's designation status (LPIC-1, LPIC-2) will change from ACTIVE to INACTIVE in the LPI database, unless the certificate holder recertifies. The addition of the designation status of ACTIVE or INACTIVE into the LPI database will begin on September 1, 2004. Certification designations (LPIC-1, LPIC-2, etc.) earned before that date will NOT be subject to these recertification stipulations. All certification designations earned before September 1, 2004 will be considered 'lifetime' designations and will be maintained as having an ACTIVE status in the database, regardless of recertification activities.
This is a new change in their policy so it certainly appears that their certifications expire after 10 years. Still not too shabby. At least you don't have to recertify after every new kernel release.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:34 pm
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inetizen wrote:
from redhat web site:
The validity period for all RHCEs and RHCTs is now officially pegged to the release of the Enterprise product commercially available at the time certification was earned, and certification shall be current until after one (1) major release of the Enterprise product. All RHCEs earned on Red Hat Linux 7.3 or prior will be considered current until the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS/ES/WS 4. All RHCEs and RHCTs earned on Red Hat Linux 8.0 or 9 will remain current until the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5. Validity and current status of an RHCE certificate will continue to be verified at Certification Central.
Our information suggests that the RHCE is such a strong certification that RHCEs in continuous practice as professionals are likely to be able to keep their skill levels up in pace with Red Hat Linux technology. Some Red Hat partner programs mandate RHCEs maintain certification on the most recent release.
THIS SUCKS
Well, it would seem to, but really it is a good thing.
Most certs are revision-based. For example, HP-UX certs are lifetime, but they are based on the revision of the OS (mine is in 11i.) Solaris has their certs based on revision as well, and they have a single upgrade test to go from one revision to another. So the Solaris 8 cert is lifetime, but you have to list it as a Solaris 8 cert (the current version is Solaris 10, and the current cert is Solaris 9.) Even the MCSE is revision based in a strange sort of way.
Think of it this way: Do you want to go to a dentist who hasn't gotten any additional training since 1980? How about a lawyer who hasn't done any addtional reading since they passed the bar in 1968? I know that I would want both professions to have additional training and updating to latest laws/techniques. Same should go for your certs as well. _________________ kidvelvet www.kidvelvet.net
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:13 am
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drewm320 wrote:
From LPI's website:
Quote:
LPI strongly encourages certificants to recertify minimally within a ten-year period. Ten years from the date the first exam of the level was passed, a certificant's designation status (LPIC-1, LPIC-2) will change from ACTIVE to INACTIVE in the LPI database, unless the certificate holder recertifies. The addition of the designation status of ACTIVE or INACTIVE into the LPI database will begin on September 1, 2004. Certification designations (LPIC-1, LPIC-2, etc.) earned before that date will NOT be subject to these recertification stipulations. All certification designations earned before September 1, 2004 will be considered 'lifetime' designations and will be maintained as having an ACTIVE status in the database, regardless of recertification activities.
This is a new change in their policy so it certainly appears that their certifications expire after 10 years. Still not too shabby. At least you don't have to recertify after every new kernel release.
roflmao........i hate having to keep recertifying.
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